X-A.-This is identical to Mod. The Extra refers to the extra 1/2 inch length of the barrel as it did in the Ruby Extra. III and is merely a smaller version of that model (Fig. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. Sometimes the mark is on the left side below the slide release. 45 or, GABILONDO Y CIA. I have found a gun labeled as a Model I-A on the box, but I can assure you there is no such model and the box is a mis-print. IV. 99. Here are a couple pics of it, I can post serial numbers if they will help. 'F. s U i'*i* V k I ! t i'^' 11 till t l^lll 11 ll nTi f r 11 In iTl 111! |I|'|II JI|i|IH|'ll|'l'ji PPI'I'PI'I Jl|'|ll'|'l'l'l'ji|l|l I I|' ' . During WWII a company named Geco, Gustav Genschow & Co, imported guns from Spain to be sold to Nazi party members and marked their guns with the Geco logo which is a large G with the eco inside it. We find a lot of Llamas from the 30's that have their proof marks removed and I feel like this was done in the refinishing. 6758, ' 1 ' ' ',1 ' ' ' ' ' ' 111 ' ' ' ' t * ' ' ' ' ' '1 ' ' ' ' ' ' 'I''I'1<|I''1I'''J 111111111 ij 1111111111111M1111111 ' 111 n 11 ij 111111 ' 1 ' 11111 y ; 11 11111 . However, my Max I 9mm Govt size is the best 9mm shooter I have. L. Selbstladcr' Wood grip pieces on pistols made for military use, Fr. It dates from about 1935 and is believed to have replaced the first two models in distribution and to have been dropped from production in 1954. XV.-This is a .22 caliber (Long Rifle) pistol which follows the same general design as the other recent Llama models. Shipping Notes: On Star Pistols, the date code is usually under the left grip panel on the grip frame. d'Armes de Guerre de Haute Prcision Lige, Belgium No. Hopefully I'm in the right forum. It was the first to have a 9 round magazine because Gabilondo had built it to be used by the Military or Police. It has no dovetail for the rear sight and both sights are silver soldered on, so it almost has to be Llama made entirely.
On the LEFT side of LLAMA firearms, right above the tirgger, is X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. Mod. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. Unlike the other Llama large frame guns this one is thinner at 3/4" in thickness and is actually comparable to the Star A or B in size. according to the serial number. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. If it has a copyright let me know and I will remove it. 37963, ' I tI M 111 m 111 nI y 11 I' I' I' I' I' I J'lM'li[inin^ni|ii, > . VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. iiull.l'%'lr. I found this pic in my files and I have no idea where it came from. Llama means Flame in Spanish, but they used the animal as their logo as well. Fully recoil-operated Llama pistols of the Mod. To identify the make and model of these guns, dig around the manufacturer . This addition seems to have been the first application of a grip safety to a Llama pistol and was introduced prior to World War II. Mod. Is it a locked breech model? I also have a pic of this gun with Tauler on it. Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. Hi, I am trying to find out the year on a recently purchased Llama .380. It is a Tauler model VI and is exactly what the Llama model VI looks like. ,.,.. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. 528. 9 (U.S. an Alpha-Numeric Code. The Spanish government set up a proof house in Eibar starting in 1923. The safety does not affect the slide, so it can be cycled and the cartridge chambered with the safety on, but the hammer will not stay in the cocked position. Well here is your chance. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. Very similar to the Astra Victoria from earlier years, While this gun is nothing more than an Ultra Plus it is marked Danton War Model. Parabellum caliber was produced. With N date code manufactured in 1942. The E is for engraved . 528. The double stack magazine holds 15 rounds plus one in the chamber. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. For pistols built before 1936 the mmarking would be: Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9MM/.380IN Llama, Llama Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9mm .380, The best source of data would a for a fee service run by the Blue Book of Gun valuses run it thru www.bluebookinc.com, Numrich Gun Parts Corporation
528. This is all based on my research online but I'm certainly not 100%. They had the straight serrations of the earlier series. Mod. In the link provided, there is an example shown for '6 78' with a guess of 1978, though it's not certain. ACP only. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between. The second series had the detent spring tube with coil spring and used the same frame. The demand of used LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. Stoeger Llama S Serial Number Can Be This serial number can be used to search for the make, model and history of a gun, but the type of information the average person can get is limited.Heres the scoop on what info a guns serial number can dish out.Look for Identifying Marks As of 2002, imported firearms must also bear a serial number . iT : ! The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. The frame is numbered in the normal manner for a gun made in 98 and you can see where the old serial number and proof marks were removed. ACP only. Catalog pages for the second series two vent, Llama IX C - .45 Cal. Shortly after the production of this first model, a blowback style based upon the external shape of the Colt-Browning was introduced. Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion. This pistol was developed by Llama in 1986 and was adopted by the Spanish military in 1988. s U i'*i* V k I ! Mod. Vintage and antique guns may not have the serial number printed on the gun's body, because they were manufactured before the legal requirement to do so. I haveseen another like it. Location: TN. Do a Google search. : Spain Date Code Serialization. Normally they have soft checkered rubber grips that do not last. 1911. There are two variations of this gun, the other one having a different placement of the grips screws. On the right side of the frame, Union Switch & Signal inserted double spaces in "M 1911 A1" whereas Colt rolled it out all crammed together ("M1911A1") and Remington-Rand, Ithaca, and Singer inserted single spaces ("M 1911 A1"). Mod. By the end of the war it is thought that Gabilondo alone produced from 250,000 to 300,000 pistols. The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. The Llama Comanche is a state-of-art revolver produced in Spain by the Gabilondo company. The codes began with A in 1927, and after reaching Z in 1954, continued with A1 in 1955. 2514, l'l'l'l'J'H I' I' IM ' I' t I > I' I III HJ I IH|' > M' HJ I I' I' IM f I 'J M M *!I' * I n, 'Til :l'llll!llM)|l|'|i||? Hesston 4790 baler specs. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. It appears to be identical to Mod. In 1931, company began to produce a semi-automatic pistol based on Colt Model 1911. i in I m iTii mi h1 h m li ii?i n nln m IimiIhmIi in In i?l 11 n Im7?Im nlitill m li li m^lin i Iniilni li, 111111111 j. Does your Llama say MicroMax on it? They are solid shooters except for the MiniMax II SC model. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. XI.-This is a 9 mm. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. 175). Although Spain began proof marking shotguns in 1910, it was not until July 18, 1923, nearly 5 years after the end of the first world war that Spain's proofing system for its pistols came into use. Gunsmithing, Troubleshooting & Refinishing, M1911 Disassembly and reassembly animations, Tests of Products of general shooters interest, Airsoft/Air Gun Modifications, Troubleshooting and Maintenance. Serial number has been in two different places also. This is a little known model used by the Spanish Policein .380 if it had a model number it is unknown by anyone. Parabellum caliber with a variant style of grip frame and hammer and has no grip safety. 3889, No. Llama Pistol Series. Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion. All you have to do is type in the serial number for your gun, and the site will present you with its date of creationit's as simple as that. It was an imitation of Colt Mod. I n 11 ' I J .J. Llama Serial Number Lookup Llama Firearms , officially known as Llama-Gabilondo y Cia SA , was a Spanish arms company founded in 1904 under the name Gabilondo and Urresti . Browning Short caliber, heavier than Mod. Another company did import them but they are not marked in any way. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. VI may have been given to these pistols. Cross section of typical Llama pistols. This command uses the Windows Management Instrumentation Command . Beristain cancelled the contract even though he won. I 111 IJ . As with my model VII this gun was made in 1934. I'm trying to identify it. After the war confiscated arms were separated as to good or bad and the bad guns were destroyed. It looks like all but the 25-2 are sporting their original stocks. Pic isn't very good but the best I can do at the time. It could have been used in a crime and dumped Did not realize refreshing the site would do that. It will cross reference the date code I am especially interested in the model IX .45 cal and VII 9mm P. All are early guns produced before 1955. Parabellum caliber was produced. VI.-This has been reported to be in 9 mm. This was the original Llama pistol, dating from 1931-32, in 9 mm. If so desired, you can also manually cock the hammer for the first shot, to improve accuracy. You are correct! It could also be purchased with a 13 round magazine. I know the basic history of Llama but I'm not sure exactly what model we have. iT : ! Largo (Bergmann) caliber. . These fall in the serial number range between 200 and 300. Llama model IV - 9mm largo - 38 acp. Llama Pistol Identification - Firearms identification Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. Any Llama lover needs to have 1 in their collection, IMO. In actuality there is no difference in the model VII M&P and the VIII M&P except for the markings. d'Armes de Guerre de Grande Precision Beistegui Hermanos, Eibar, Spain No. Both the solid rib and the vent rib were used, Llama model -XI 9mm P. The first design had the W spring detent and possibly came with only lined wood grips asthat is the only way I have seen them. Remington Firearms Hi, I am trying to find out the year on a recently purchased Llama .380. ' r nn< . The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched.
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